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Issues Under Consideration

(Please roll on & See the next post for Latest update on Position of Demands)

The following issues are under active consideration of DOP, RB & Priority Committee:

i) Rates of Incentive Bonus -

- In a meeting of Subcommittee held recently in March, 09 Railway Board offered 2.26 times rise of Incentive rates & 15% of R.P. to SSE from 1.9.2008

- No agreement could take place due to differences on date of effect & upto 5% cut in Allowed Time. Further meeting is expected early


ii) Classification of Posts as per revised Pay Bands & Grade Pay

iii) Modified ACP Scheme

iv) Classification of 'Selection' & 'Non-Selection' Posts.

v) Revised Designations -
(Proposed as Section Engineer & Senior Section Engineer / Assistant Engineer)

vi) Grade Pay of Technical Supervisors as Rs 4800 & Rs 5400

vii) 2 AC Pass for those in Grade Pay of Rs 4200 & above.

Please roll-on for Latest update on Position of Demands
04-03-2009 09:38 PM
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Orders with regard to the Modified Assured Career Progression Scheme have since been issued.
07-24-2009 10:55 AM
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Position of Demands - Latest update
1. DEMANDS UNDER CONSIDERATION: Some of the demands - were under consideration & orders are expected to be issued early on item no. 1 to 4 indicated below:
    1. Classification of Selection & Non-Selection of Posts;
    - Method of Recruitment thereof & immediate lifting of ban on promotions
    2. Revision of rates of Incentive Bonus as per Revised Pay
    3. Revised entitlement for Passes
    4. Revised Designations as per revised Pay Bands & Grade Pay
    5. Upgrading of a percentage of posts of SSE to Group B
    6. Classification of Posts on Railways as per revised Pay Bands & Grade Pay
    7. Grant of higher Grade Pay JEs, SSEs, CMA, CMS, CDMS and DMS


    Much struggle will be required – to achieve
    • Higher Grade Pay;
    • Group B (Gaz) status;
    • First Class / 2 AC Pass to all JEs;
    • Grant of PCO Allowance to Technical Staff in Drawing/Design, CMT, Store; and
    • Special Allowance to Open line & Shed Staff.

    2. Further Feedback from GS AIRF: On 24.7.2009, President/AIRF met the Secretary (Expenditure), Ministry of Finance, Government of India and discussed various issues:

    1. Bringing all the Supervisors at par with the Section Officer(Accounts). More specifically he discussed for giving Grade Pay Rs. 4800 to those who are presently in Grade Rs.4600.

    2. Grant of Grade Pay Band- 2 Rs.5400 to all Group `B’ officers in V CPC Rs.7500-12000 at par with Accounts officers – The Official Side stated that this needs active consideration of the Finance Ministry.

    3. Application of stepping up in cases where a senior promotee draws lower pay than a junior direct recruit – The Official Side stated that the matter will be disposed of by next week.

    4. Grant of one increment in situations where promotion is to post in identical grade where neither merger/upgradation is possible – The matter will be disposed of by next week.

    5. Regularisation of Permanent deferment of increment in cases of leave without pay - The matter will be disposed of by next week.

    6. Stepping up in cases where junior draws more than senior due to grant of one increment on 1.1.2006 for those in receipt of stagnation increment - The matter will be disposed of by next week.

    7. Reg. PASS: In the meeting held on 24.7.2009 with the Railway Board, the GS AIRF stated that the instructions of the Government of India on LTC in verbatim should be followed by the Indian Railways and accordingly employees in the Grade Pay of Rs.4200 and above should be given 2nd AC Pass and the employees in Grade Pay Rs.2400-2800 should be given 3 AC pass.

    The Federation also mentioned that this issue should be dealt with expeditiously.

    The Official Side(Railway Board) though appreciated the views of the Federation stated that there will be huge expenditure of about Rs.470 crore, to which Staff Side objected that the figure are very much inflated.

    In the meeting, it has been decided that the issues raised by the Federation and the expenditure so involved will be re-examined and a meeting will be held shortly to resolve the issue.

    Harchandan Singh,
    General Secretary, IRTSA
07-25-2009 09:08 AM
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One core thing so far we have`t discussed so far. After the implementation of VIth pay commission report, is it imperative to compile the combined seniority list to consider group `B` service on the basis of entry date to PB2? ie, date of entry to GP Rs.4200/-
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A severe anomaly

Central pattern adopted employees are cheated by the pay commission by scraping out two upper grades scales of payment viz 6500-10500 & 7450-11500. Eventhough the commision is saying that the two grades, 5000-8000 elevated to 5500-9000 grade and 6500-10500 elevated to 7450-11500 grade, it is not so. In that case, the pay commission should have allotted individual grade pays to existing pay scales, then they should have applied the up gradation of grade pays.
ie,
5000-8000 scale should have allotted the GP of Rs.4200/-
5500-9000 scale should have allotted the GP of Rs.4600
6500-10500 scale should have allotted the GP of Rs.4800
7450-11500 scale should have allotted the GP of Rs.5400

If we take in to account of the words of the commission, when 5000-8000 scale upgraded to 5500-9000 scale, the corresponding GP should have Rs.4600/-. Like wise, when 6500-10500 scale upgraded to 7450-11500, the corresponding GP should have Rs.5400/- But actually, the GPs corresponding to scale 5000-8000 (GP- Rs.4200/-) and the GPs corresponding to scale 5500-9000 (GP- Rs.4600/-) exists. So two upper grade scales of payment viz 6500-10500 & 7450-11500 scraping out.
Am I right?

So I humbly request you to bring this anomaly to the concerned platform.
02-25-2010 09:00 PM
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dear sir,
when we can expect the new pass rules: we the employees are fed up with the publish like "shortly coming", or "issues under active consideration" now 6 months are over for the active consideration
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(03-01-2010 06:52 PM)pnramesh Wrote:  dear sir,
when we can expect the new pass rules: we the employees are fed up with the publish like "shortly coming", or "issues under active consideration" now 6 months are over for the active consideration

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Though every effort is being made for early decision on such important issues of wide concern, but no target date can be fixed for such matters due to various factors - particularly in case of Entitlement of Passes where we want a major change in the policy - that is to get it delinked from the date of recruitment - a procedure being followed by the Railways for the last nealy 40 years.

However, we do hope & are trying for early decision on the matter.
03-01-2010 08:16 PM
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(02-25-2010 09:00 PM)hari_kuttan Wrote:  A severe anomaly

Central pattern adopted employees are cheated by the pay commission by scraping out two upper grades scales of payment viz 6500-10500 & 7450-11500. Eventhough the commision is saying that the two grades, 5000-8000 elevated to 5500-9000 grade and 6500-10500 elevated to 7450-11500 grade, it is not so. In that case, the pay commission should have allotted individual grade pays to existing pay scales, then they should have applied the up gradation of grade pays.
ie,
5000-8000 scale should have allotted the GP of Rs.4200/-
5500-9000 scale should have allotted the GP of Rs.4600
6500-10500 scale should have allotted the GP of Rs.4800
7450-11500 scale should have allotted the GP of Rs.5400

If we take in to account of the words of the commission, when 5000-8000 scale upgraded to 5500-9000 scale, the corresponding GP should have Rs.4600/-. Like wise, when 6500-10500 scale upgraded to 7450-11500, the corresponding GP should have Rs.5400/- But actually, the GPs corresponding to scale 5000-8000 (GP- Rs.4200/-) and the GPs corresponding to scale 5500-9000 (GP- Rs.4600/-) exists. So two upper grade scales of payment viz 6500-10500 & 7450-11500 scraping out.
Am I right?

So I humbly request you to bring this anomaly to the concerned platform.
REPLY BY GS IRTSA
Sixth Pay Commission had recommended for 40% of the maximum of the highest of the merged scales as the criteria for calculation of Grade Pay at each level. 40% of Rs.10500 works out to be Rs.4200 which has been given in the the case of the 2 pay scales of Rs 5000-8000 & Rs 5500-9000 which have been merged & upgraded to Rs 6500-10500.
The formula has been uniformally applied in all cases. But the main Anomaly lies elsewhere.
The question is - from where the formula of 40% arrived at? What was the basis for adopting this factor? The Sixth CPC had not clarified this. In fact factor should have been much higher keeping in view the rise of NNP since Fifth Pay commission.
Fifth CPC had clearly defined the formula of Common Multiple Factor of 3.25 based on rise of NNP since Fourth CPC.
IRTSA has raised all these issues in its Memorandum to National Anomales Committee. It requires great determination, unity and a consistent struggle to get justice on such issues.

- Harchandan Singh, GS, IRTSA
03-12-2010 02:14 PM
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dear friends
it is very simple mathe matics, first they decided what should be the increase in wages ( u call it scale, basic, grade pay like ) then arrived the formula , to get the aimed figure , just like , software programing .
he very well knows the end result , that's all . don't put much head into it . this is not the only one case ,tis is one out of hundred .
thanks
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